gnucash and gnome

[Doug Laidlaw]

Just a thought: doesn't Gentoo use tarballs?  If so, you will need to install 
all the "devel" packages as well.  With an RPM or 'deb file, you won't need 
to do that.

Doug.

On Monday 28 April 2008 5:53:59 pm Doug Laidlaw wrote:
> I won't repeat what the others have said.
>
> I too run KDE.  I install both KDE and GNOME.  Even then, I need to install
> quite a few of those dependencies.  Mostly I use the Mandriva RPM, and the
> dependencies are taken care of.   I have no experience of the Gentoo
> portage system, but it should be as good.  Are you worried about disk
> space?
>
> Gnucash isn't the only app that runs under GTK.  My impression is that more
> free software is written for Gnome dependencies than for KDE (leaving out
> what is on KDE's own site, and most of that is cosmetic.)
>
> Doug.
>
> On Monday 28 April 2008 9:03:22 am Steve Brenneis wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > I'm sure you've heard much of this before, but I thought I would throw in
> > my $0.02.
> >
> > I run a small business and was looking forward to using gnucash. I use
> > Gentoo Linux for most of my server and laptop applications. Using
> > portage, I checked out what would be necessary to put gnucash on my
> > laptop. That's when the fun began. I am a KDE user, so I'm sure you know
> > what's coming. The list of packages needed to install gnucash looks like
> > this:
> >
> > gnome-base/libglade-2.6.2
> > gnome-base/orbit-2.14.12
> > x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.20.0
> > gnome-base/gnome-keyring-2.20.3
> > gnome-base/gail-1.20.2
> > gnome-base/libgnomeprint-2.18.4
> > app-text/rarian-0.6.0-r1
> > gnome-base/gnome-common-2.20.0
> > net-misc/neon-0.26.4
> > app-text/iso-codes-1.5
> > x11-libs/libwnck-2.20.3
> > dev-scheme/guile-1.8.3-r2
> > net-libs/libsoup-2.2.104
> > dev-scheme/slib-3.1.5-r1
> > gnome-extra/libgsf-1.14.7
> > app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.1.2-r6
> > app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.12.1
> > net-libs/xulrunner-1.8.1.13
> > gnome-base/gconf-2.20.1-r1
> > gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.20.1.1
> > gnome-base/libbonobo-2.20.4
> > app-text/scrollkeeper-9999
> > x11-libs/libsexy-0.1.11
> > x11-libs/goffice-0.6.1
> > x11-misc/notification-daemon-0.3.7
> > gnome-base/libgnomeprintui-2.18.2
> > x11-libs/libnotify-0.4.4
> > gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.20.1-r1
> > gnome-base/libgnome-2.20.1.1
> > gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.20.0
> > gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.20.1.1
> > gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.6
> > gnome-extra/gtkhtml-3.16.3
> > gnome-extra/yelp-2.20.0
> > app-doc/gnucash-docs-2.2.0
> > app-office/gnucash-2.2.3
> >
> > And that's without the HBCI or OFX extensions.
> >
> > I read the FAQ on why gnucash depends on gnome and two things struck me.
> >
> > It is stated that plenty of KDE users use gnucash just fine. Well I guess
> > that's true, except that they have to install gnome first. And this isn't
> > just a little bit of gnome. The package list to install and use gnome as
> > my desktop isn't much longer.
> >
> > It is also stated that the gnucash developers' time is better spent
> > developing gnucash than in developing print libraries, graphing
> > libraries, and HTML renderers. All true and an admirable goal. As a 35
> > year IT professional, I couldn't agree more. However, what the developers
> > have done, by selecting a particular desktop environment, is offloaded
> > the responsibility for these things to their end users. In doing so,
> > gnucash has contributed to the "geek factor" of Linux and has thrown more
> > flammables on the desktop holy wars. I'm sure that was not the desire of
> > the gnucash team.
> >
> > Since I try never to complain without providing a constructive
> > suggestion, I would offer that what the gnucash team should do is to
> > identify those functions that directly depend on gnome and create an
> > abstraction layer from those requirements. Then the end user can feel
> > free to use whichever desktop they have selected without having to
> > install 75% of the one they didn't select. That leaves gnucash out of the
> > desktop debate and opens its use up to whole groups of new users, like
> > me, who won't be able to use it because they don't want to have to
> > install gnome on their KDE system.
> >
> > I'm going to check back from time to time to see if the dependency on
> > gnome has been eliminated or reduced to an acceptable point. I would love
> > to use gnucash and contribute to its success story. Until then, I guess
> > it's Microsoft and Intuit for the time being. Bleh!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve Brenneis
> > Managing Partner
> > Atlantic Coast Online Productions, LLC
> >
> >
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